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		By: Heather Hastie		</title>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.heatherhastie.com/treating-women-equals-difficult/#comment-21806&quot;&gt;nicky&lt;/a&gt;.

I cover this stuff in my not yet published post. It&#039;s quite an involved explanation. 

(Btw, sorry I forgot to delete your comment yesterday.  I&#039;ll do it now.)]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.heatherhastie.com/treating-women-equals-difficult/#comment-21806">nicky</a>.</p>
<p>I cover this stuff in my not yet published post. It&#8217;s quite an involved explanation. </p>
<p>(Btw, sorry I forgot to delete your comment yesterday.  I&#8217;ll do it now.)</p>
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		By: Heather Hastie		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Feb 2018 17:22:26 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.heatherhastie.com/treating-women-equals-difficult/#comment-21805&quot;&gt;nicky&lt;/a&gt;.

Her husband took the photo,  and has admitted he took the photo. It was some time later. She forced him to as part of an act of attrition. (They&#039;re fairly devout Mormons.) He says the photo doesn&#039;t display the real situation because because of that.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.heatherhastie.com/treating-women-equals-difficult/#comment-21805">nicky</a>.</p>
<p>Her husband took the photo,  and has admitted he took the photo. It was some time later. She forced him to as part of an act of attrition. (They&#8217;re fairly devout Mormons.) He says the photo doesn&#8217;t display the real situation because because of that.</p>
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		By: nicky		</title>
		<link>https://www.heatherhastie.com/treating-women-equals-difficult/#comment-21807</link>

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		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Feb 2018 12:22:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.heatherhastie.com/treating-women-equals-difficult/#comment-21774&quot;&gt;Jenny Haniver&lt;/a&gt;.

Germaine Greer, that sheer endless source of quotes?  I can&#039;t find the quote right now, but it was she who contended that those being so indignated and horrified about sex with adolescents, this obsession with youth, had some cravings about it themselves. (Echoed by the Hitch, who contended that the fiercest anti-homosexual crusaders have some gay leanings themselves).
[Some brilliant Greer quotes, just to justify she is an endless mine:
- &quot;You&#039;re only young once, but you can be immature forever&quot;
- “I find that those men who are personally most polite to women, who call them angels and all that, cherish in secret the greatest contempt for them.” 
- “Those miserable women who blame the men who let them down for their misery and isolation enact every day the initial mistake of sacrificing their personal responsibility for themselves.” 
- &quot;If a person loves only one other person, and is indifferent to his fellow men, his love is not love but a symbiotic attachment, or an enlarged egotism.&quot;
- &quot;Psychoanalysis is the confession without absolution.&quot;
- &quot;Never advise anyone to go to war or to get married. Write down the advice of him who loves you, though you like it not at present. He that has no children brings them up well.&quot;
- &quot;Evolution is what it is. The upper classes have always died out; it&#039;s one of the most charming things about them.&quot;
- &quot;Sexual religion is the opiate of the supermenial.&quot;]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.heatherhastie.com/treating-women-equals-difficult/#comment-21774">Jenny Haniver</a>.</p>
<p>Germaine Greer, that sheer endless source of quotes?  I can&#8217;t find the quote right now, but it was she who contended that those being so indignated and horrified about sex with adolescents, this obsession with youth, had some cravings about it themselves. (Echoed by the Hitch, who contended that the fiercest anti-homosexual crusaders have some gay leanings themselves).<br />
[Some brilliant Greer quotes, just to justify she is an endless mine:<br />
&#8211; &#8220;You&#8217;re only young once, but you can be immature forever&#8221;<br />
&#8211; “I find that those men who are personally most polite to women, who call them angels and all that, cherish in secret the greatest contempt for them.”<br />
&#8211; “Those miserable women who blame the men who let them down for their misery and isolation enact every day the initial mistake of sacrificing their personal responsibility for themselves.”<br />
&#8211; &#8220;If a person loves only one other person, and is indifferent to his fellow men, his love is not love but a symbiotic attachment, or an enlarged egotism.&#8221;<br />
&#8211; &#8220;Psychoanalysis is the confession without absolution.&#8221;<br />
&#8211; &#8220;Never advise anyone to go to war or to get married. Write down the advice of him who loves you, though you like it not at present. He that has no children brings them up well.&#8221;<br />
&#8211; &#8220;Evolution is what it is. The upper classes have always died out; it&#8217;s one of the most charming things about them.&#8221;<br />
&#8211; &#8220;Sexual religion is the opiate of the supermenial.&#8221;]</p>
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		By: nicky		</title>
		<link>https://www.heatherhastie.com/treating-women-equals-difficult/#comment-21806</link>

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		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Feb 2018 11:28:50 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.heatherhastie.com/treating-women-equals-difficult/#comment-21805&quot;&gt;nicky&lt;/a&gt;.

Rereading, I think I formulated badly.  I found these photos unconvincing, could easily be faked (no, I do not contend they are). My point is that there was a years, nay decade+, long &lt;b&gt;history&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/b&gt; of abuse, which is &lt;i&gt;very&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/i&gt; much more convincing than a photograph of a receding haemorrhage around the eye. Maybe Mr Kelly is an &#039;idiot&#039; after all? I mean, a  long history of abuse would mean nothing, but a moot photograph would?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.heatherhastie.com/treating-women-equals-difficult/#comment-21805">nicky</a>.</p>
<p>Rereading, I think I formulated badly.  I found these photos unconvincing, could easily be faked (no, I do not contend they are). My point is that there was a years, nay decade+, long <b>history</b> of abuse, which is <i>very</i> much more convincing than a photograph of a receding haemorrhage around the eye. Maybe Mr Kelly is an &#8216;idiot&#8217; after all? I mean, a  long history of abuse would mean nothing, but a moot photograph would?</p>
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		By: nicky		</title>
		<link>https://www.heatherhastie.com/treating-women-equals-difficult/#comment-21805</link>

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		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Feb 2018 11:14:43 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.heatherhastie.com/treating-women-equals-difficult/#comment-21778&quot;&gt;Heather Hastie&lt;/a&gt;.

I found that photo somehow unconvincing. It must have been taken quite a while (like 2-3 weeks)  after the facts, the discoloration is already yellowish and there is no swelling.
Somewhat off topic: I&#039;m always struck how badly films depict a &#039;black eye&#039;, clearly just some make-up. A black eye is swollen, these peri-orbital tissues are very loose and swell very easily, invariably. The only exceptions would be &#039;raccoon hematomas&#039;, sometimes with little peri-orbital swelling, indicating a serious facial fracture (the different &#039;Lefort fractures&#039;), but not involving direct orbital trauma.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.heatherhastie.com/treating-women-equals-difficult/#comment-21778">Heather Hastie</a>.</p>
<p>I found that photo somehow unconvincing. It must have been taken quite a while (like 2-3 weeks)  after the facts, the discoloration is already yellowish and there is no swelling.<br />
Somewhat off topic: I&#8217;m always struck how badly films depict a &#8216;black eye&#8217;, clearly just some make-up. A black eye is swollen, these peri-orbital tissues are very loose and swell very easily, invariably. The only exceptions would be &#8216;raccoon hematomas&#8217;, sometimes with little peri-orbital swelling, indicating a serious facial fracture (the different &#8216;Lefort fractures&#8217;), but not involving direct orbital trauma.</p>
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		By: nicky		</title>
		<link>https://www.heatherhastie.com/treating-women-equals-difficult/#comment-21804</link>

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		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Feb 2018 10:59:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.heatherhastie.com/treating-women-equals-difficult/#comment-21773&quot;&gt;Randall Schenck&lt;/a&gt;.

There is also Mr Sorensen now who had to resign after accusations of wife battering. Apparently he did not need a security clearance for his Job though. 
Note, he contends that he was the battered one. That is  moot question. From what I&#039;ve seen (in my job involving repair of physical damage), it is indeed often -well, regularly, I would not say a majority of cases- the woman initiating the violence, at least here in SA. However, until she attacks her man while he&#039;s asleep, she generally comes second best, because of obvious reasons.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.heatherhastie.com/treating-women-equals-difficult/#comment-21773">Randall Schenck</a>.</p>
<p>There is also Mr Sorensen now who had to resign after accusations of wife battering. Apparently he did not need a security clearance for his Job though.<br />
Note, he contends that he was the battered one. That is  moot question. From what I&#8217;ve seen (in my job involving repair of physical damage), it is indeed often -well, regularly, I would not say a majority of cases- the woman initiating the violence, at least here in SA. However, until she attacks her man while he&#8217;s asleep, she generally comes second best, because of obvious reasons.</p>
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		By: Mark R.		</title>
		<link>https://www.heatherhastie.com/treating-women-equals-difficult/#comment-21800</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Mark R.]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Feb 2018 03:23:17 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.heatherhastie.com/treating-women-equals-difficult/#comment-21786&quot;&gt;j.a.m.&lt;/a&gt;.

so...dumb...really...
Heather, why do you let this fool denigrate your site with this horror. Please make him stop. You&#039;re the only one who has the power...over god...god can&#039;t stop you from allowing j.a.m. to exist. Perhaps prove god wrong. The guy does nothing for you or your site...makes it shitty and I&#039;m getting bored of his crap. I&#039;m sure others are too. Time to trim the verge. j.a.m. and his idiocy has no place here. I don&#039;t follow sites with trolls...I&#039;m not far from leaving yours. Just sayin&#039;.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.heatherhastie.com/treating-women-equals-difficult/#comment-21786">j.a.m.</a>.</p>
<p>so&#8230;dumb&#8230;really&#8230;<br />
Heather, why do you let this fool denigrate your site with this horror. Please make him stop. You&#8217;re the only one who has the power&#8230;over god&#8230;god can&#8217;t stop you from allowing j.a.m. to exist. Perhaps prove god wrong. The guy does nothing for you or your site&#8230;makes it shitty and I&#8217;m getting bored of his crap. I&#8217;m sure others are too. Time to trim the verge. j.a.m. and his idiocy has no place here. I don&#8217;t follow sites with trolls&#8230;I&#8217;m not far from leaving yours. Just sayin&#8217;.</p>
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		By: Mark R.		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Mark R.]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Feb 2018 03:18:36 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.heatherhastie.com/treating-women-equals-difficult/#comment-21786&quot;&gt;j.a.m.&lt;/a&gt;.

The reason humans don&#039;t believe in god is Reason. You say &quot;acknowledge&quot;, I don&#039;t. There is no acknowledgment in the nebulous. Why so wishy-washy? You are wrong and forever have been. Tough corner to be in. Evolve!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.heatherhastie.com/treating-women-equals-difficult/#comment-21786">j.a.m.</a>.</p>
<p>The reason humans don&#8217;t believe in god is Reason. You say &#8220;acknowledge&#8221;, I don&#8217;t. There is no acknowledgment in the nebulous. Why so wishy-washy? You are wrong and forever have been. Tough corner to be in. Evolve!</p>
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		By: Heather Hastie		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Heather Hastie]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Feb 2018 01:29:02 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.heatherhastie.com/treating-women-equals-difficult/#comment-21797&quot;&gt;j.a.m.&lt;/a&gt;.

I&#039;m not going to go to the link because I don&#039;t have time, but if Schumer was calling for a military parade, he&#039;s wrong too. I don&#039;t think this is wrong just because it&#039;s Trump&#039;s idea.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.heatherhastie.com/treating-women-equals-difficult/#comment-21797">j.a.m.</a>.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m not going to go to the link because I don&#8217;t have time, but if Schumer was calling for a military parade, he&#8217;s wrong too. I don&#8217;t think this is wrong just because it&#8217;s Trump&#8217;s idea.</p>
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		By: j.a.m.		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Feb 2018 00:57:31 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.heatherhastie.com/treating-women-equals-difficult/#comment-21743&quot;&gt;Heather Hastie&lt;/a&gt;.

Schumer joins calls for a big military parade:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VsOhD7Cgong

(In 2014.)]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.heatherhastie.com/treating-women-equals-difficult/#comment-21743">Heather Hastie</a>.</p>
<p>Schumer joins calls for a big military parade:</p>
<p><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VsOhD7Cgong" rel="nofollow ugc">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VsOhD7Cgong</a></p>
<p>(In 2014.)</p>
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