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		By: Amy Carparelli		</title>
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					<description><![CDATA[Exactly, NO items of clothing are feminist statements apart from possibly a T-shirt with &#039;I&#039;m a feminist&#039; written on it (and that doesn&#039;t mean the person is a real feminist). I was reading an article about the &#039;corset&#039; being a feminist statement earlier, bloody crazy ideas. 

I know not all people calling themselves &#039;feminist&#039; are real feminists but online definition:

&quot;feminism:
the advocacy of women&#039;s rights on the ground of the equality of the sexes.&quot;

Whereas I would argue that hijabs are about segregation: 
the action or state of setting someone or something apart from others.
Men don&#039;t wear hijabs women do, men and women have to sit apart with people of their own gender/sex and from my understanding I don&#039;t think some Muslim women are meant to be in a room &#039;alone&#039; with a man they are not related to (which also demonizes men as a threat). Most men are not a threat. 

To quote myself from my article: &quot;One of the most sexist things about society today is the way women are often judged as either dressing or acting “modestly” or “immodestly&quot;. And this is one of several reasons I have read some Muslim men and women say women wear the hijab. Another reason I have read is &#039;so women are a symbol of their religion&#039;. 

To wrap up what I&#039;m saying real feminism is meant to be about equality and working towards that and NOT about segregation. I would argue that if a Muslim woman decided to take her hijab off and not wear it that could be seen as a feminist statement because Muslim men don&#039;t wear hijabs and it&#039;s a step in the right direction. Having to hide behind a piece of cloth with all that fear put in your head making the women totally responsible if she gets advances from men is crazy and NOT feminist. We are all adults let&#039;s all behave as adults and share responsibility NOT use women as symbols or objects that should be hidden. Sorry if any typos I just got up and leaning to the side when typing because my laptop burns my legs it get&#039;s so hot. 

It&#039;s crazy that when human&#039;s started making and wearing clothes it was at least partly to survive colder weather as humans started to migrate and this is what has transpired.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Exactly, NO items of clothing are feminist statements apart from possibly a T-shirt with &#8216;I&#8217;m a feminist&#8217; written on it (and that doesn&#8217;t mean the person is a real feminist). I was reading an article about the &#8216;corset&#8217; being a feminist statement earlier, bloody crazy ideas. </p>
<p>I know not all people calling themselves &#8216;feminist&#8217; are real feminists but online definition:</p>
<p>&#8220;feminism:<br />
the advocacy of women&#8217;s rights on the ground of the equality of the sexes.&#8221;</p>
<p>Whereas I would argue that hijabs are about segregation:<br />
the action or state of setting someone or something apart from others.<br />
Men don&#8217;t wear hijabs women do, men and women have to sit apart with people of their own gender/sex and from my understanding I don&#8217;t think some Muslim women are meant to be in a room &#8216;alone&#8217; with a man they are not related to (which also demonizes men as a threat). Most men are not a threat. </p>
<p>To quote myself from my article: &#8220;One of the most sexist things about society today is the way women are often judged as either dressing or acting “modestly” or “immodestly&#8221;. And this is one of several reasons I have read some Muslim men and women say women wear the hijab. Another reason I have read is &#8216;so women are a symbol of their religion&#8217;. </p>
<p>To wrap up what I&#8217;m saying real feminism is meant to be about equality and working towards that and NOT about segregation. I would argue that if a Muslim woman decided to take her hijab off and not wear it that could be seen as a feminist statement because Muslim men don&#8217;t wear hijabs and it&#8217;s a step in the right direction. Having to hide behind a piece of cloth with all that fear put in your head making the women totally responsible if she gets advances from men is crazy and NOT feminist. We are all adults let&#8217;s all behave as adults and share responsibility NOT use women as symbols or objects that should be hidden. Sorry if any typos I just got up and leaning to the side when typing because my laptop burns my legs it get&#8217;s so hot. </p>
<p>It&#8217;s crazy that when human&#8217;s started making and wearing clothes it was at least partly to survive colder weather as humans started to migrate and this is what has transpired.</p>
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		By: Jenny Haniver		</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Dec 2016 00:38:28 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.heatherhastie.com/making-hijab-feminist-statement/#comment-13102&quot;&gt;Heather Hastie&lt;/a&gt;.

Guess you could say that I went whole hog.]]></description>
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<p>Guess you could say that I went whole hog.</p>
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		By: rickflick		</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Dec 2016 23:36:20 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.heatherhastie.com/making-hijab-feminist-statement/#comment-13098&quot;&gt;Pliny the in Between&lt;/a&gt;.

Excellent.  I&#039;ll take my hat off to you. 8-)]]></description>
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<p>Excellent.  I&#8217;ll take my hat off to you. 😎</p>
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		By: Heather Hastie		</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Dec 2016 23:03:35 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.heatherhastie.com/making-hijab-feminist-statement/#comment-13103&quot;&gt;rickflick&lt;/a&gt;.

True. When the bikini first came along, only women judged to he &quot;whores&quot; wore them. A mini skirt was an invitation for rape. We have come a long way in the last seventy years, and a lot of younger people don&#039;t realize just how far.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.heatherhastie.com/making-hijab-feminist-statement/#comment-13103">rickflick</a>.</p>
<p>True. When the bikini first came along, only women judged to he &#8220;whores&#8221; wore them. A mini skirt was an invitation for rape. We have come a long way in the last seventy years, and a lot of younger people don&#8217;t realize just how far.</p>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Dec 2016 22:59:19 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.heatherhastie.com/making-hijab-feminist-statement/#comment-13097&quot;&gt;Heather Hastie&lt;/a&gt;.

Rants probably do us a lot of good.  Keep it up.  8-)

Perhaps a more apt comparison with the hijab would be the wearing of bikinis and low cut dresses in the west.  150 years ago these were forbidden.  A young woman dressed so scantily would have had hell to pay from her local church and her family.  Gradually, the west has relaxed dress codes, but ours were pretty up tight not that long ago.  To ask some middle eastern cultures to uncover the hair would be somewhat similar.  Effectively, we can see women&#039;s dress as an issue of emancipation.  We&#039;d like things to change more rapidly in the Muslim world mostly so that the complex of social constraints surrounding gender can all be brought up to a par with the west.  Voting rights, driving rights, abortion rights, etc.]]></description>
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<p>Rants probably do us a lot of good.  Keep it up.  😎</p>
<p>Perhaps a more apt comparison with the hijab would be the wearing of bikinis and low cut dresses in the west.  150 years ago these were forbidden.  A young woman dressed so scantily would have had hell to pay from her local church and her family.  Gradually, the west has relaxed dress codes, but ours were pretty up tight not that long ago.  To ask some middle eastern cultures to uncover the hair would be somewhat similar.  Effectively, we can see women&#8217;s dress as an issue of emancipation.  We&#8217;d like things to change more rapidly in the Muslim world mostly so that the complex of social constraints surrounding gender can all be brought up to a par with the west.  Voting rights, driving rights, abortion rights, etc.</p>
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		By: Heather Hastie		</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Dec 2016 22:45:51 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.heatherhastie.com/making-hijab-feminist-statement/#comment-13101&quot;&gt;Jenny Haniver&lt;/a&gt;.

Ha ha! Bound to happen when you&#039;re worked up I think! If I was talking this post instead of writing it down, that would have happened to me too - it&#039;s just that with writing I get the chance to edit my thoughts!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.heatherhastie.com/making-hijab-feminist-statement/#comment-13101">Jenny Haniver</a>.</p>
<p>Ha ha! Bound to happen when you&#8217;re worked up I think! If I was talking this post instead of writing it down, that would have happened to me too &#8211; it&#8217;s just that with writing I get the chance to edit my thoughts!</p>
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		By: Jenny Haniver		</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Dec 2016 22:21:22 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.heatherhastie.com/making-hijab-feminist-statement/#comment-13100&quot;&gt;Jenny Haniver&lt;/a&gt;.

Oops, I&#039;ve mixed several metaphors referring to horses, asses, and bulls in one sentence.  Oh, well, all this bullshit turns me into a horse&#039;s ass.  &quot;Bullcorn&quot; = bullshit.]]></description>
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<p>Oops, I&#8217;ve mixed several metaphors referring to horses, asses, and bulls in one sentence.  Oh, well, all this bullshit turns me into a horse&#8217;s ass.  &#8220;Bullcorn&#8221; = bullshit.</p>
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		By: Jenny Haniver		</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Dec 2016 22:15:22 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I&#039;m glad to have this in-depth refutation of all this rot, especially with the accompanying quotes from the Qur&#039;an and Hadith.  Since these hijabis look to the Qur&#039;an and the Sunna as their divine instruction books, one must go straight to the horse&#039;s mouth (or ass) for the definitive bullcorn.

When Ms. Ibrahim says that “Wearing the headscarf is a matter of feminism, aesthetics, and solidarity for me,” she wrote in a New York Times op-ed piece earlier this year. “The hijab is fun and dignifying … it’s part of my morning routin​e,” it makes me sick to my stomach.  She really is deluded or a huckster, perhaps both. The case of the Saudi woman who was recently arrested and received death threats for posting a photo of herself sans hijab on Twitter stands as stark rebuke to the infuriatingly mindless twaddle of this Muslim &#039;feminist&#039; booby.  I wonder just how many Muslim women who are compelled to cover themselves to whatever degree consider it &quot;fun and dignifying&quot;?  When it ceases to be &quot;fun&quot; for Ms. Ibrahim, she can preserve her dignity and merely leave her headscarf at home, and no one is going to arrest her or make death threats.  I&#039;ve got a burka.  I used to wear it on occasion just for fun because it bamboozled people and I found their reactions humorous and telling. But that was a long time ago and a different kind of &quot;fun.&quot;  

You&#039;ve written other posts commenting on the execrable hijab couture and how so many hijabis turn hijab on its head and into an object or tool of seduction, such as pairing it with high heels, lots of make up, revealing clothing below the headscarf, etc.  Last night, after reading your post, my mind completley lost its moorings.  Forget headscarves and shawls, I began to trip on burka fashion and niqab fashion.  Now, despite (or perhaps because of) their totally obscuring the female body, those garments have a definite possibility to serve as tools of seduction; and as I drifted off to sleep, I thought of all the pornographic fashion statements one could make with a little alteration in critical places -- even simply wearing a burka or niqab with stilettos, and slitting the skirt up to mid thigh (naked thigh, of course, but even encased in tight pants) would be enough.  I don&#039;t see these feminist hijabis exploiting those truly radical fashion possibilities.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m glad to have this in-depth refutation of all this rot, especially with the accompanying quotes from the Qur&#8217;an and Hadith.  Since these hijabis look to the Qur&#8217;an and the Sunna as their divine instruction books, one must go straight to the horse&#8217;s mouth (or ass) for the definitive bullcorn.</p>
<p>When Ms. Ibrahim says that “Wearing the headscarf is a matter of feminism, aesthetics, and solidarity for me,” she wrote in a New York Times op-ed piece earlier this year. “The hijab is fun and dignifying … it’s part of my morning routin​e,” it makes me sick to my stomach.  She really is deluded or a huckster, perhaps both. The case of the Saudi woman who was recently arrested and received death threats for posting a photo of herself sans hijab on Twitter stands as stark rebuke to the infuriatingly mindless twaddle of this Muslim &#8216;feminist&#8217; booby.  I wonder just how many Muslim women who are compelled to cover themselves to whatever degree consider it &#8220;fun and dignifying&#8221;?  When it ceases to be &#8220;fun&#8221; for Ms. Ibrahim, she can preserve her dignity and merely leave her headscarf at home, and no one is going to arrest her or make death threats.  I&#8217;ve got a burka.  I used to wear it on occasion just for fun because it bamboozled people and I found their reactions humorous and telling. But that was a long time ago and a different kind of &#8220;fun.&#8221;  </p>
<p>You&#8217;ve written other posts commenting on the execrable hijab couture and how so many hijabis turn hijab on its head and into an object or tool of seduction, such as pairing it with high heels, lots of make up, revealing clothing below the headscarf, etc.  Last night, after reading your post, my mind completley lost its moorings.  Forget headscarves and shawls, I began to trip on burka fashion and niqab fashion.  Now, despite (or perhaps because of) their totally obscuring the female body, those garments have a definite possibility to serve as tools of seduction; and as I drifted off to sleep, I thought of all the pornographic fashion statements one could make with a little alteration in critical places &#8212; even simply wearing a burka or niqab with stilettos, and slitting the skirt up to mid thigh (naked thigh, of course, but even encased in tight pants) would be enough.  I don&#8217;t see these feminist hijabis exploiting those truly radical fashion possibilities.</p>
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		By: Heather Hastie		</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Dec 2016 21:50:04 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.heatherhastie.com/making-hijab-feminist-statement/#comment-13098&quot;&gt;Pliny the in Between&lt;/a&gt;.

Thanks Pliny! I&#039;m honoured. Great cartoon - I&#039;ve shared it on all the social media platforms I&#039;m on.]]></description>
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<p>Thanks Pliny! I&#8217;m honoured. Great cartoon &#8211; I&#8217;ve shared it on all the social media platforms I&#8217;m on.</p>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Dec 2016 21:41:37 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Hey Heather - thanks for the inspiration.

http://farcornercafe.blogspot.com/2016/12/the-feminist-veil.html]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey Heather &#8211; thanks for the inspiration.</p>
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