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		By: Heather Hastie		</title>
		<link>https://www.heatherhastie.com/trumps-abortion-comment/#comment-9633</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Heather Hastie]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Apr 2016 17:57:46 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.heatherhastie.com/trumps-abortion-comment/#comment-9628&quot;&gt;Mark R.&lt;/a&gt;.

I agree Mark. The so-called pro-life position is so lacking in compassion that it boggles the mind that they have the cheek to call themselves that. What it&#039;s really about is forcing women into their religion-ordained roles and keeping control of both men and women via sexual taboos. It exemplifies what&#039;s wrong with religion. 

If religion stuck to the nice stuff like kindness, compassion, understanding, treating others as you&#039;d like to be treated yourself etc., most of us wouldn&#039;t have a problem whether or not they incleded belief in some sort of god in that. And, of course, there are believers like that. But too many are too ready with judgement, self-righteousness, requiring others to adopt their beliefs, and worse.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.heatherhastie.com/trumps-abortion-comment/#comment-9628">Mark R.</a>.</p>
<p>I agree Mark. The so-called pro-life position is so lacking in compassion that it boggles the mind that they have the cheek to call themselves that. What it&#8217;s really about is forcing women into their religion-ordained roles and keeping control of both men and women via sexual taboos. It exemplifies what&#8217;s wrong with religion. </p>
<p>If religion stuck to the nice stuff like kindness, compassion, understanding, treating others as you&#8217;d like to be treated yourself etc., most of us wouldn&#8217;t have a problem whether or not they incleded belief in some sort of god in that. And, of course, there are believers like that. But too many are too ready with judgement, self-righteousness, requiring others to adopt their beliefs, and worse.</p>
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		By: Heather Hastie		</title>
		<link>https://www.heatherhastie.com/trumps-abortion-comment/#comment-9632</link>

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		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Apr 2016 17:42:15 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.heatherhastie.com/trumps-abortion-comment/#comment-9627&quot;&gt;Plingar&lt;/a&gt;.

Excellent news for PEI. It&#039;s quite shocking that abortions haven&#039;t been available there for so long. 

It really annoys me the way this is often portrayed by opponents as if those who wish the service to be available are hunting down pregnant women in order to force them to have an abortion. They say things like,  &quot;I can&#039;t imagine any circumstances in which a woman would choose to have an abortion.&quot; (That was in a letter to the editor of my local newspaper.) If they &quot;... can&#039;t imagine any circumstances ...&quot; they&#039;ve lived pretty sheltered lives, and have no idea of the sorts of things some women suffer every day.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.heatherhastie.com/trumps-abortion-comment/#comment-9627">Plingar</a>.</p>
<p>Excellent news for PEI. It&#8217;s quite shocking that abortions haven&#8217;t been available there for so long. </p>
<p>It really annoys me the way this is often portrayed by opponents as if those who wish the service to be available are hunting down pregnant women in order to force them to have an abortion. They say things like,  &#8220;I can&#8217;t imagine any circumstances in which a woman would choose to have an abortion.&#8221; (That was in a letter to the editor of my local newspaper.) If they &#8220;&#8230; can&#8217;t imagine any circumstances &#8230;&#8221; they&#8217;ve lived pretty sheltered lives, and have no idea of the sorts of things some women suffer every day.</p>
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		By: Heather Hastie		</title>
		<link>https://www.heatherhastie.com/trumps-abortion-comment/#comment-9631</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Heather Hastie]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Apr 2016 17:24:40 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.heatherhastie.com/trumps-abortion-comment/#comment-9625&quot;&gt;Yakaru&lt;/a&gt;.

Thanks for posting that Yakaru. Rachel Maddow is great, and always has excellent analysis of whatever she takes on. 

Eric Bolling, who did that Fox interview with Trump, has been a Trump apologist from the beginning. It seems there&#039;s nothing Trump can do that Bolling can&#039;t find an excuse for. He has a show on Fox Business called Cashin In. Michelle Fields used to be a contributor. After the incident between her and Trump operative Lewandowski, she lost that job. She says she was told it was because they no longer considered her able to be neutral regarding Trump.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.heatherhastie.com/trumps-abortion-comment/#comment-9625">Yakaru</a>.</p>
<p>Thanks for posting that Yakaru. Rachel Maddow is great, and always has excellent analysis of whatever she takes on. </p>
<p>Eric Bolling, who did that Fox interview with Trump, has been a Trump apologist from the beginning. It seems there&#8217;s nothing Trump can do that Bolling can&#8217;t find an excuse for. He has a show on Fox Business called Cashin In. Michelle Fields used to be a contributor. After the incident between her and Trump operative Lewandowski, she lost that job. She says she was told it was because they no longer considered her able to be neutral regarding Trump.</p>
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		By: Heather Hastie		</title>
		<link>https://www.heatherhastie.com/trumps-abortion-comment/#comment-9630</link>

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		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Apr 2016 16:36:09 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.heatherhastie.com/trumps-abortion-comment/#comment-9622&quot;&gt;Thomas Sutcliffe&lt;/a&gt;.

Cheers Thomas, and excellent point - a candidate should know their opponents policies as well as their own.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.heatherhastie.com/trumps-abortion-comment/#comment-9622">Thomas Sutcliffe</a>.</p>
<p>Cheers Thomas, and excellent point &#8211; a candidate should know their opponents policies as well as their own.</p>
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		By: Mark R.		</title>
		<link>https://www.heatherhastie.com/trumps-abortion-comment/#comment-9628</link>

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		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Apr 2016 16:01:10 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Yes, perfect GOP (religious) logic. We don&#039;t want you to have contraception, which will greatly increase your chances of getting pregnant. But if you get pregnant (even if married) we don&#039;t want to allow an abortion. So really the only pathway they want women to have is either abstinence or only engage in procreation copulation. Or in other words, women should only breed. And statistic after statistic shows something that only a religiously-addled brain won&#039;t accept: abstinence has NEVER worked. Or in the worst scenarios, abstinence leads to other abuses which the Catholic priesthood has clearly revealed. Sex isn&#039;t going away people! What&#039;s even more sickening is that the majority of the anti-abortion legislators are men (who take no responsibility for the pregnancy). Though I am aware that some of the most vociferous opponents are (religious) women. 

Pro-lifers (what an oxymoron for this group) are offended by women making a difficult choice and undertaking a constitutionally legal procedure.

You know what offends me? Women who are forced into a bleach douche abortion, or throwing themselves down stairs, or drinking turpentine or lye or opium or ergot. How about the old back-alley hanger or sewing needle probe abortion? It offends me to my core that the GOP would create an environment that would force countless women to do these horrible things to themselves. And of course, the majority of these women would be poor. Wealthy/well-off women can always fly to a place that has legal abortion. Before Roe v. Wade, it was quite common that the rich USians would fly to Puerto Rico for the procedure.

Lastly, (I&#039;m putting on my Jonathan Swift sardonic hat) if abortion is illegal and a punishable crime, would it be considered 1st degree murder? That&#039;s really where the logic leads. And what about the 15-25% of recognized pregnancies that end in miscarriages. (Though as many as 50% of all pregnancies end in miscarriage- most often before a woman misses a menstrual cycle or knows she&#039;s pregnant.) Logic follows that recognized pregnancies that end in miscarriage could be considered manslaughter. Especially for women who are prone to miscarriages and keep trying for a successful pregnancy. It&#039;s like a child running in front of a car and killed. Not the driver&#039;s fault, nothing could have stopped it, but the driver will still be charged with manslaughter. The prison industrial complex would probably relish the idea.


Hitchen&#039;s quote can&#039;t be stated enough: &quot;Religion poisons everything&quot;.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, perfect GOP (religious) logic. We don&#8217;t want you to have contraception, which will greatly increase your chances of getting pregnant. But if you get pregnant (even if married) we don&#8217;t want to allow an abortion. So really the only pathway they want women to have is either abstinence or only engage in procreation copulation. Or in other words, women should only breed. And statistic after statistic shows something that only a religiously-addled brain won&#8217;t accept: abstinence has NEVER worked. Or in the worst scenarios, abstinence leads to other abuses which the Catholic priesthood has clearly revealed. Sex isn&#8217;t going away people! What&#8217;s even more sickening is that the majority of the anti-abortion legislators are men (who take no responsibility for the pregnancy). Though I am aware that some of the most vociferous opponents are (religious) women. </p>
<p>Pro-lifers (what an oxymoron for this group) are offended by women making a difficult choice and undertaking a constitutionally legal procedure.</p>
<p>You know what offends me? Women who are forced into a bleach douche abortion, or throwing themselves down stairs, or drinking turpentine or lye or opium or ergot. How about the old back-alley hanger or sewing needle probe abortion? It offends me to my core that the GOP would create an environment that would force countless women to do these horrible things to themselves. And of course, the majority of these women would be poor. Wealthy/well-off women can always fly to a place that has legal abortion. Before Roe v. Wade, it was quite common that the rich USians would fly to Puerto Rico for the procedure.</p>
<p>Lastly, (I&#8217;m putting on my Jonathan Swift sardonic hat) if abortion is illegal and a punishable crime, would it be considered 1st degree murder? That&#8217;s really where the logic leads. And what about the 15-25% of recognized pregnancies that end in miscarriages. (Though as many as 50% of all pregnancies end in miscarriage- most often before a woman misses a menstrual cycle or knows she&#8217;s pregnant.) Logic follows that recognized pregnancies that end in miscarriage could be considered manslaughter. Especially for women who are prone to miscarriages and keep trying for a successful pregnancy. It&#8217;s like a child running in front of a car and killed. Not the driver&#8217;s fault, nothing could have stopped it, but the driver will still be charged with manslaughter. The prison industrial complex would probably relish the idea.</p>
<p>Hitchen&#8217;s quote can&#8217;t be stated enough: &#8220;Religion poisons everything&#8221;.</p>
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		By: Plingar		</title>
		<link>https://www.heatherhastie.com/trumps-abortion-comment/#comment-9627</link>

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		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Apr 2016 14:07:08 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Some good news however regarding the women of P.E.I. Canada and their fight for abortion services.

http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/prince-edward-island/pei-abortion-reproductive-rights-1.3514334]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Some good news however regarding the women of P.E.I. Canada and their fight for abortion services.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/prince-edward-island/pei-abortion-reproductive-rights-1.3514334" rel="nofollow ugc">http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/prince-edward-island/pei-abortion-reproductive-rights-1.3514334</a></p>
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		By: Yakaru		</title>
		<link>https://www.heatherhastie.com/trumps-abortion-comment/#comment-9625</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Yakaru]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Apr 2016 12:08:22 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.heatherhastie.com/trumps-abortion-comment/#comment-9624&quot;&gt;Yakaru&lt;/a&gt;.

Here&#039;s Rachel Maddow covering the story that the media should have been covering regarding Trump&#039;s comments: Cruz is more extreme than Trump and lists anti-abortion terrorists and proponents of terrorism among his supporters.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fhsuayz_V_I]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.heatherhastie.com/trumps-abortion-comment/#comment-9624">Yakaru</a>.</p>
<p>Here&#8217;s Rachel Maddow covering the story that the media should have been covering regarding Trump&#8217;s comments: Cruz is more extreme than Trump and lists anti-abortion terrorists and proponents of terrorism among his supporters.<br />
<a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fhsuayz_V_I" rel="nofollow ugc">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fhsuayz_V_I</a></p>
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		By: Yakaru		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Yakaru]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Apr 2016 11:04:15 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[It was kinda weird. Trump had obviously prepped himself a bit on that -- asking Matthews about his catholicism and his position on abortion, but was obviously not prepped about the issue in general. When in doubt use authoritarian bluster. His whole campaign is like one long Milgram experiment.

The core of this issue simply to allow the church to get its hands on small children and brainwash them into being paying followers. They don&#039;t care how they do it, they just want those babies. They would trample mothers underfoot if they had to.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/forced-adoptions-for-unwed-mothers-around-the-globe.html]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It was kinda weird. Trump had obviously prepped himself a bit on that &#8212; asking Matthews about his catholicism and his position on abortion, but was obviously not prepped about the issue in general. When in doubt use authoritarian bluster. His whole campaign is like one long Milgram experiment.</p>
<p>The core of this issue simply to allow the church to get its hands on small children and brainwash them into being paying followers. They don&#8217;t care how they do it, they just want those babies. They would trample mothers underfoot if they had to.</p>
<p><a href="https://www.yahoo.com/news/forced-adoptions-for-unwed-mothers-around-the-globe.html" rel="nofollow ugc">https://www.yahoo.com/news/forced-adoptions-for-unwed-mothers-around-the-globe.html</a></p>
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		By: Thomas Sutcliffe		</title>
		<link>https://www.heatherhastie.com/trumps-abortion-comment/#comment-9622</link>

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		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Apr 2016 07:20:45 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Excellent stuff Heather. I particularly like the little infographic at the end. It is inexcusable for a would-be president to be caught on the hop by a question about one of their own policies - and I would take a fairly dim view of it if they were caught on the hop about one of their rivals&#039; policies.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Excellent stuff Heather. I particularly like the little infographic at the end. It is inexcusable for a would-be president to be caught on the hop by a question about one of their own policies &#8211; and I would take a fairly dim view of it if they were caught on the hop about one of their rivals&#8217; policies.</p>
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