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	Comments on: 17 Nov 2017: Heather&#8217;s Homily (Roy Moore Again) and Tweets	</title>
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		By: Heather Hastie		</title>
		<link>https://www.heatherhastie.com/17-nov-2017-heathers-homily-tweets/#comment-19534</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Heather Hastie]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Nov 2017 22:16:47 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.heatherhastie.com/17-nov-2017-heathers-homily-tweets/#comment-19532&quot;&gt;Jenny Haniver&lt;/a&gt;.

That&#039;s the one.

They&#039;re also the ones who do those creepy father/daughter dances where the girls pledge their virginity to their fathers.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.heatherhastie.com/17-nov-2017-heathers-homily-tweets/#comment-19532">Jenny Haniver</a>.</p>
<p>That&#8217;s the one.</p>
<p>They&#8217;re also the ones who do those creepy father/daughter dances where the girls pledge their virginity to their fathers.</p>
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		By: Heather Hastie		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Heather Hastie]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Nov 2017 22:14:30 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.heatherhastie.com/17-nov-2017-heathers-homily-tweets/#comment-19531&quot;&gt;Jenny Haniver&lt;/a&gt;.

Cadaver Trials weren&#039;t uncommon in the Middle Ages. Another corpse the Catholic Church dug up, desecrated  and posthumously excommunicated for the terrible crime of translating the Bible into English so ordinary people could read it was John Wycliffe. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Wycliffe#Declared_a_heretic]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.heatherhastie.com/17-nov-2017-heathers-homily-tweets/#comment-19531">Jenny Haniver</a>.</p>
<p>Cadaver Trials weren&#8217;t uncommon in the Middle Ages. Another corpse the Catholic Church dug up, desecrated  and posthumously excommunicated for the terrible crime of translating the Bible into English so ordinary people could read it was John Wycliffe. <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Wycliffe#Declared_a_heretic" rel="nofollow ugc">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Wycliffe#Declared_a_heretic</a></p>
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		By: Jenny Haniver		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jenny Haniver]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Nov 2017 22:07:04 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.heatherhastie.com/17-nov-2017-heathers-homily-tweets/#comment-19527&quot;&gt;Heather Hastie&lt;/a&gt;.

I went to your twitter feed -- this must be what you were referring to http://www.rightwingwatch.org/report/roy-moore-a-history-of-bigotry-extremism-and-contempt-for-the-rule-of-law/.  Super!  Every day, I learn something new about him and the world of what I call &#039;deep-end&#039; evangelical/fundamentalist belief.  In just the past two days, I&#039;ve come across two enlightening items relating to what might be called a cult of aggressive masculinity of among evangelicals and a vocal celebration of testosterone, along with a valorization of relations between older men and young girls.  Well, it sure is in the biblical spirit, so now we know when Roy Moore preaches his crusade and cries that we must return to the bible.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.heatherhastie.com/17-nov-2017-heathers-homily-tweets/#comment-19527">Heather Hastie</a>.</p>
<p>I went to your twitter feed &#8212; this must be what you were referring to <a href="http://www.rightwingwatch.org/report/roy-moore-a-history-of-bigotry-extremism-and-contempt-for-the-rule-of-law/" rel="nofollow ugc">http://www.rightwingwatch.org/report/roy-moore-a-history-of-bigotry-extremism-and-contempt-for-the-rule-of-law/</a>.  Super!  Every day, I learn something new about him and the world of what I call &#8216;deep-end&#8217; evangelical/fundamentalist belief.  In just the past two days, I&#8217;ve come across two enlightening items relating to what might be called a cult of aggressive masculinity of among evangelicals and a vocal celebration of testosterone, along with a valorization of relations between older men and young girls.  Well, it sure is in the biblical spirit, so now we know when Roy Moore preaches his crusade and cries that we must return to the bible.</p>
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		By: Jenny Haniver		</title>
		<link>https://www.heatherhastie.com/17-nov-2017-heathers-homily-tweets/#comment-19531</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jenny Haniver]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Nov 2017 20:52:56 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.heatherhastie.com/17-nov-2017-heathers-homily-tweets/#comment-19518&quot;&gt;j.a.m.&lt;/a&gt;.

I agree with HH&#039;s comment and would like to add that Edward Kennedy&#039;s crime and subsequent craven behavior are thoroughly condemnable.  He at least came to accept and declare his responsibility and I think felt true remorse.  Being the cause of someone&#039;s death in that way, and trying to evade blame, is something he had to live with for the rest of his life.  Roy Moore, on the other hand, denies all accusations.  His soul is pure as the driven snow.

And, no, Kennedy didn&#039;t go to prison, but I consider that his subsequent work in congress (which you would also surely condemn) as a way that he tried to atone for what was unquestionably a monstrous act (including its aftermath).  Your obsession with political tit-for-tat makes me wonder if you&#039;d like to hold a Cadaver Synod https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cadaver_Synod for Ted Kennedy?  We could exhume his corpse, cart it up to Capitol Hill and have at him.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.heatherhastie.com/17-nov-2017-heathers-homily-tweets/#comment-19518">j.a.m.</a>.</p>
<p>I agree with HH&#8217;s comment and would like to add that Edward Kennedy&#8217;s crime and subsequent craven behavior are thoroughly condemnable.  He at least came to accept and declare his responsibility and I think felt true remorse.  Being the cause of someone&#8217;s death in that way, and trying to evade blame, is something he had to live with for the rest of his life.  Roy Moore, on the other hand, denies all accusations.  His soul is pure as the driven snow.</p>
<p>And, no, Kennedy didn&#8217;t go to prison, but I consider that his subsequent work in congress (which you would also surely condemn) as a way that he tried to atone for what was unquestionably a monstrous act (including its aftermath).  Your obsession with political tit-for-tat makes me wonder if you&#8217;d like to hold a Cadaver Synod <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cadaver_Synod" rel="nofollow ugc">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cadaver_Synod</a> for Ted Kennedy?  We could exhume his corpse, cart it up to Capitol Hill and have at him.</p>
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		By: Heather Hastie		</title>
		<link>https://www.heatherhastie.com/17-nov-2017-heathers-homily-tweets/#comment-19528</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Heather Hastie]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Nov 2017 18:22:46 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.heatherhastie.com/17-nov-2017-heathers-homily-tweets/#comment-19518&quot;&gt;j.a.m.&lt;/a&gt;.

Some Democrats are now saying Clinton should have resigned. 

This is not partisan issue j.a.m. Sexual abuse is wrong whoever the perpetrators are. Your reaction above shows that you, like Moore&#039;s supporters, care more about politics than the women concerned.]]></description>
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<p>Some Democrats are now saying Clinton should have resigned. </p>
<p>This is not partisan issue j.a.m. Sexual abuse is wrong whoever the perpetrators are. Your reaction above shows that you, like Moore&#8217;s supporters, care more about politics than the women concerned.</p>
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		By: Heather Hastie		</title>
		<link>https://www.heatherhastie.com/17-nov-2017-heathers-homily-tweets/#comment-19527</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Heather Hastie]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Nov 2017 18:17:38 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.heatherhastie.com/17-nov-2017-heathers-homily-tweets/#comment-19516&quot;&gt;Jenny Haniver&lt;/a&gt;.

That&#039;s a good article! I tweeted another one from Right Wing Watch yesterday (I&#039;m on the wrong device to link to it). They&#039;ve done a full analysis of him that brings together all their previous articles. ]]></description>
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<p>That&#8217;s a good article! I tweeted another one from Right Wing Watch yesterday (I&#8217;m on the wrong device to link to it). They&#8217;ve done a full analysis of him that brings together all their previous articles. </p>
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		By: j.a.m.		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[j.a.m.]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Nov 2017 08:25:56 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[The most notorious womanizer in the history of the United States Senate drowned a young woman and got off scot-free. He remained ensconced in the Senate until his death four decades later (a total of 47 years in office). He was then eulogized by the President of the United States, Hon. Barack H. Obama, as the &quot;greatest legislator of our time&quot; and a &quot;kind and tender hero&quot;. Unfortunately for Mary Jo Kopechne, there was nothing kind or tender or heroic about his actions and inaction on the one occasion when it mattered.

I&#039;ll believe Democrats and liberals are serious about sexual harrassment and abuse when they apologize to the world for not censuring Edward Moore &quot;Ted&quot; Kennedy and expelling him from the Senate. They can warm up with an apology for failing to convict William Jefferson Clinton of the crimes of perjury and obstruction that he perpetrated in order to cover up his own abusive (if not criminal) misconduct.

For what it&#039;s worth, Roy Moore was a Democrat at the time of the alleged misconduct, so if there is guilt by association related to his actions decades ago, it is with the party of Kennedy, Clinton, Biden, Franken et al.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The most notorious womanizer in the history of the United States Senate drowned a young woman and got off scot-free. He remained ensconced in the Senate until his death four decades later (a total of 47 years in office). He was then eulogized by the President of the United States, Hon. Barack H. Obama, as the &#8220;greatest legislator of our time&#8221; and a &#8220;kind and tender hero&#8221;. Unfortunately for Mary Jo Kopechne, there was nothing kind or tender or heroic about his actions and inaction on the one occasion when it mattered.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ll believe Democrats and liberals are serious about sexual harrassment and abuse when they apologize to the world for not censuring Edward Moore &#8220;Ted&#8221; Kennedy and expelling him from the Senate. They can warm up with an apology for failing to convict William Jefferson Clinton of the crimes of perjury and obstruction that he perpetrated in order to cover up his own abusive (if not criminal) misconduct.</p>
<p>For what it&#8217;s worth, Roy Moore was a Democrat at the time of the alleged misconduct, so if there is guilt by association related to his actions decades ago, it is with the party of Kennedy, Clinton, Biden, Franken et al.</p>
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		By: Jenny Haniver		</title>
		<link>https://www.heatherhastie.com/17-nov-2017-heathers-homily-tweets/#comment-19516</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jenny Haniver]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Nov 2017 01:06:17 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.heatherhastie.com/17-nov-2017-heathers-homily-tweets/#comment-19510&quot;&gt;Heather Hastie&lt;/a&gt;.

I laugh sardonically that they would cite Augustine.  The fundamentalists used to consider the Catholic Church to be the Whore of Babylon.  They didn&#039;t think much of the Jews, either, but what the hey.  I just found another fascinating and pertinent evaluation of Roy Moore, by Randall Balmer, John Phillips Professor in Religion and director of the Society of Fellows at Dartmouth College, titled&quot;I know Roy Moore. He’s always been a con artist.&quot;
https://www.washingtonpost.com/outlook/roy-moore-is-a-fraud/2017/11/17/45c0edfe-caf9-11e7-8321-481fd63f174d_story.html]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.heatherhastie.com/17-nov-2017-heathers-homily-tweets/#comment-19510">Heather Hastie</a>.</p>
<p>I laugh sardonically that they would cite Augustine.  The fundamentalists used to consider the Catholic Church to be the Whore of Babylon.  They didn&#8217;t think much of the Jews, either, but what the hey.  I just found another fascinating and pertinent evaluation of Roy Moore, by Randall Balmer, John Phillips Professor in Religion and director of the Society of Fellows at Dartmouth College, titled&#8221;I know Roy Moore. He’s always been a con artist.&#8221;<br />
<a href="https://www.washingtonpost.com/outlook/roy-moore-is-a-fraud/2017/11/17/45c0edfe-caf9-11e7-8321-481fd63f174d_story.html" rel="nofollow ugc">https://www.washingtonpost.com/outlook/roy-moore-is-a-fraud/2017/11/17/45c0edfe-caf9-11e7-8321-481fd63f174d_story.html</a></p>
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		By: Heather Hastie		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Heather Hastie]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Nov 2017 23:16:43 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.heatherhastie.com/17-nov-2017-heathers-homily-tweets/#comment-19508&quot;&gt;Jenny Haniver&lt;/a&gt;.

It makes me smh when they say things like, &quot;It looks hypocrisy.&quot; It effing looks like hypocrisy because it is hypocrisy!!!]]></description>
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<p>It makes me smh when they say things like, &#8220;It looks hypocrisy.&#8221; It effing looks like hypocrisy because it is hypocrisy!!!</p>
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		By: Heather Hastie		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Heather Hastie]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Nov 2017 23:10:47 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.heatherhastie.com/17-nov-2017-heathers-homily-tweets/#comment-19509&quot;&gt;Mark R.&lt;/a&gt;.

I feel pretty much the same. His apology was good, and if it turns out to be the only bad thing he&#039;s done I can live with him not resigning.]]></description>
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<p>I feel pretty much the same. His apology was good, and if it turns out to be the only bad thing he&#8217;s done I can live with him not resigning.</p>
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